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~~sflit~~ · 7 лютого, 2022

На ЧС отключать ГВ совсем не надо, только сбросить позиции в ноль. На ЧС8 я больше 28 с шунтами не даю.

Вылетов, действительно, быть не должно, Давай поставим симулятор в соседнюю папку, посмотрим как свеженький пойдет. Именно не поверх, а в другую папку.

irasrom · 7 лютого, 2022

Так и сделал, все почистил и установил заново, поставил только необходимое для сценария...

Стараюсь ехать аккуратно, не превышая токов и напряжения на движках, выше 26 позиции не поднимаю, дальше шунтами, ибо на 27 позиции напряжение на движке уже 700, а это чревато пробоем если вдруг скакнет на уклоне...

проехал коварный 545 км, состав на месте не завис, еду дальше...

Змінено 7 лютого, 2022 користувачем irasrom

~~sflit~~ · 7 лютого, 2022

На ЧС8 смело ставь 28, и шунт, он чуток понижает напряжение на ТД. Ну и следи за током зарядки батареи, он должен быть на нуле, это значит работает стабилизатор и питает всю низковольтную цепь, батарея в порядке.

irasrom · 7 лютого, 2022

с чистой установки вроде стабильно идет, специально загнонял в срыв ЭПК, нагружал до сработки АЗВ и 850 блоков, даже до боксования довел, симулятор держался почти до самого конца маршрута, но после Степянки была вставка и я ее прозевал, опять сработала защита во второй секции и на экране возникла вот такая картина

http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1644270281/f8b4fa98/37917750_s.png

но я же уже проехал Степянку!

Змінено 7 лютого, 2022 користувачем irasrom

irasrom · 10 лютого, 2022

Знаете, это начинает бесить!

Я как понимаю, если срабатывает защита АЗВ и 850 в любой секции электровоза ЧС8-045, нужно устранять, так?

А симулятор не должен вылетать с ошибкой (на скриншоте в предыдущем посте) сразу после возникновения этой ситуации, так?

Но у меня просто с завидной регулярностью это происходит! Просто проклятье какое-то на ЧС8 лежит!

При чем от сценария и маршрута практически не зависит.

Иногда симулятор вылетает на первой сработке защиты (как сегодня), иногда после 2-х или 3-х повторных сработок (как 7-го февраля).

Сегодня решил прокатить сценарий поезда №24, первую часть, по маршруту Минск - Орша, все загрузилось без замечаний.

Но стоило проехать Минск Восточный как через пару минут сработала защита (может я виноват, перегрузил ТД или оно само от тряски) и симулятор вылетел с ошибкой как на скрине предыщущего поста.

Перезапустил симулятор и снова вылет после срабатывания защиты АЗВ и 850

Я хочу понять, это у меня глючит комп или винда, или это проблема симулятора и/или модели ЧС8-045.

Кто-нибудь попробуйте смоделировать такую же ситуацию с защитой АЗВ и 850 на ЧС8-045, желательно вызвать срабатывание защиты не менее 3-х раз за один маршрут

Змінено 10 лютого, 2022 користувачем irasrom

mihail55571 · 10 лютого, 2022

Я конечно не большой знаток, но по ошибке видно, что есть ошибка в лаунчаре. Я бы перекачал симулятор с сайта заново, и переустановил его на чистую. а старую удалил полностью, даже почистил всё связанное с ней в реестре (при условии если вы в этом понимаете, что делаете, если не в курсе, то не лезьте, а то накосячите так, что придётся переустанавливать всю систему) . Потом, если установленная антивирусная программа, то я бы внёс игру в исключение и поставил её на высокий приоритет.

irasrom · 10 лютого, 2022

Я конечно не большой знаток, но по ошибке видно, что есть ошибка в лаунчаре.

ну, не буду утверждать что только в лаунчере, сейчас вылелела ошибка такая:

http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1644492517/6c03604e/37967852_s.png

а случилось это после вот этой ситуации:

http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1644492593/f16f09c6/37967926_s.jpg

Специально антивирус не стоит, только тот что встроен в винду 10

Кстати, в логе симулятора DGLEngine_Log

имеется такая запись: Model file "Data\chs8\044\propusk.dmd" not found!

типа, не хватает файла, и его там на самом деле нет!

Змінено 10 лютого, 2022 користувачем irasrom

mihail55571 · 10 лютого, 2022

Ну давайте разберём структуру корневой папки симулятора. Видите там есть файлы DGLEngine.dll, Launcher. Ошибки возникают в них, а причиной может быть разная. Попробуете зайти в папку с другими ЧС8 ZDSimulator\data\chs8\ и поискать эту модель. может где найдёте. Бывает, что перезаливают какую-то новую перекраску на какой-то новый номер модели локомотива и теряют файлы.

Data\chs8\044\propusk.dmd" не найден.

Однозначно. я считаю, что проблема в симуляторе а не в системе компа.

Я в поисковике забил название модели и получил целый список моделей, с разными количества КБ. Очень много файлов моделей в ЧС7

В 13 сценарии есть ошибка, старт в 15:11 а отправление 15:07

irasrom · 10 лютого, 2022

В 13 сценарии есть ошибка, старт в 15:11 а отправление 15:07

Это не ошибка, это фича, по задумке автора поезд стартует с опозданием

~~sflit~~ · 10 лютого, 2022

А какая может быть ошибка в симуляторе? На плашках, плавающая точка, плавающая точка. Тут что-то с работай оперативной памяти связано. Вроде, симулятор запомнил, что-то сохранено там, обращается, а там его нет. Можно поближе познакомиться с Вашей системой? Зайти удаленно.

mihail55571 · 10 лютого, 2022

Семен, надо понять, это так происходит только в нашем симе или не зависимо от какой либо игры. Если везде одинаково, то оперативка виновата, если нет, то не думаю, что система глючит. У меня когда планка ОЗУ накрывалась, то по началу выкидывало во всех играх, а потом вообще перестала система запускаться. Может тест драйв сделать....

irasrom · 10 лютого, 2022

железо не виновато 100%, система виндовс-10 64 бит, работает стабильно во всех имеющихся у меня программах и играх, требующих гораздо больше ресурсов чем ЖД-симулятор

сейчас выбрал другой маршрут Агрыз - Круглое Поле, с тепловозом ТЭП70, проехал половину маршрута, никаких вылетов, еду дальше...

проехал до конца, вылетов не было.

сейчас буду пробовать любой маршрут с электровозом ЧС8, сперва проеду медленно, а затем специально загоняя его до срабатывания защиты

Выбрал маршрут Таганрог-Ростов-Батайск, там после выходного у Таганрог пасс есть нейтральная вставка.

проехал через нее несколько раз на ЧС4Т, не выключая тяги, специально чтобы сработала защита в блоке 850.

она и срабатывала, но симулятор ни разу не сбойнул, и мне каждый раз удавалось сбросить эту защиту нажав красную кнопку на блоке 850

но когда я так же проехал через вставку на ЧС8 - на третьей попытке, после срабатывания защиты в блоке 850, симулятор завис и выдал ошибку "Exception EInvalidPointer in module DGLEngine.dll at 0000502D"

специально записал фрапсом

удачная попытка: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MnQ2FGyEbLLuC1XnHWIciIrpBsJsYVvK/view?usp=sharing

и неудачная попытка с зависанием в конце: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UVb3ttkDv1pkNcX3RxeHB8nIzmlzcIPG/view?usp=sharing

Змінено 10 лютого, 2022 користувачем irasrom

максим · 10 лютого, 2022

Сейчас проехал на ЧС 8 на том же участке, разогнался до 100, и на полной тяге проехал через вставку, защита сработала но не вылетов ни зависаний нет, система виндовс 7, видеокарта затычка, процессор 2 х ядерный, раньше тоже сталкивался с подобными проблемами, но после использования программ, принудительного направления ресурсов процессора на конкретное приложения (то есть на нужное мне приложение в данный момент, я в ручную ставлю большее значение конкретно для него) после начала использования данной программой, вылеты прекратились совсем.

ж/д-кольцов · 10 лютого, 2022

Здравствуйте Максим! Какой программой пользуетесь, если не секрет?

irasrom · 11 лютого, 2022

Сейчас проехал на ЧС 8 на том же участке, разогнался до 100, и на полной тяге проехал через вставку, защита сработала но не вылетов ни зависаний нет,

так у меня тоже не всегда с первого раза после срабатывания защиты симулятор вылетает или зависает, иногда с третьего, иногда со второго, реже сразу при первом срабатывании.

у меня 64-битная виндовс 10, 6-ядерный процессор 3,5ГГц Ryzen-5 с удвоением потоков (виртуально 12 ядер), 16 гигабайт оперативы DDR-4, видеокарта nVidia GeForce GTX1050 c 2гигабайт видеопамяти, винчестер 250 гигабайт (полупустой) на SATA-3...

с такой машиной жаловаться на нехватку ресурсов не приходится

вот только-что еще раз проехал на ЧС8-045 по маршруту Таганрог-Ростов-Батайск, в начале, на вставке допустил срабатывание защиты, но все прошло штатно, затем через несколько км на тяге включил нештатку 75, что вызвало срабатывание защиты 850, тоже штатно устранилось, через несколько км повторил нештатку 75 и лишь на 4-й нештатке 75, после срабатывания защиты 850, секунд через 15 симулятор завис и выдал сообщение "Application error"

Результат нескольких тестов с двумя локомотивами ЧС4 и ЧС8 в составе пассажирского поезда из 6 вагонов на маршруте Таганрог-Ростов-Батайск:

если я провоцирую нештатку 75 (отсутствие напряжения в КС) несколько раз подряд на тяге (с перерывом в минуту-две чтобы успеть восстановиться и набрать тягу):

а) на ЧС4 все проходит нормально: после восстановления сети и сброса позиций тяги в 0, красной кнопкой на блоке 850 защита снимается, а затем включается ГВ и дальше нормальный набор тяги. нештатку 75 спровоцировал 5 раз, без вылета!

б) на ЧС8, после появления сообщения о срабатывании защиты 850 (иногда сразу, иногда через несколько секунд), возможно зависание симулятора и вылет с ошибкой. на этот раз вылетело на 4-й нештатке

симулятор запускаю в легком режиме с подсказками, для пассажиров как я

Змінено 11 лютого, 2022 користувачем irasrom

~~sflit~~ · 11 лютого, 2022

Роман, покажите DGLEngine_LOG файл после краша. Он в корневой папке симулятора.

irasrom · 11 лютого, 2022

DGLEngine_LOG файл после краша (произошло срузу после второй спровоцированной нештатки 75)

[11.02.2022|7:42:49] DGLEngine Version 1.1 RC2 Started...

Build: v1.1 RC2,30.04.2008,21:12

http://dronprogs.mirgames.ru

--System Information--

Windows version: 6.2

CPU : AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Six-Core Processor

RAM Available : 2048Mb

RAM Total : 2048Mb

Video device : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050/PCIe/SSE2

OpenGL : 4.6.0 NVIDIA 511.23 (NVIDIA Corporation)

Maximum texture resolution:32768x32768

Maximum multytexturing layers (in pipeline):4

Maximum multytexturing layers (in shader):32

----------------------

Engine created.

Fullscreen Mode:1280X1024X16 60Hz.

VSync is Off.

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максим · 11 лютого, 2022

так у меня тоже не всегда с первого раза после срабатывания защиты симулятор вылетает или зависает, иногда с третьего, иногда со второго, реже сразу при первом срабатывании.

у меня 64-битная виндовс 10, 6-ядерный процессор 3,5ГГц Ryzen-5 с удвоением потоков (виртуально 12 ядер), 16 гигабайт оперативы DDR-4, видеокарта nVidia GeForce GTX1050 c 2гигабайт видеопамяти, винчестер 250 гигабайт (полупустой) на SATA-3...
с такой машиной жаловаться на нехватку ресурсов не приходится
симулятор запускаю в легком режиме с подсказками, для пассажиров как я

Возможно ресурс кушают открытые приложения в компьютере, либо программы открытые в фоне, которые тоже могут не мало кушать ресурсов,например открытый но просто свернутый браузер с открытыми вкладками, плюс антивирус, плюс возможно еще программы какие нибудь открытые, вместе с открытым симулятором и TWS, уже может наблюдаться нехватка памяти,что приведет к вылету или зависанию последнего.

irasrom · 11 лютого, 2022

Возможно ресурс кушают

специально все отключаю чтобы не мешалось, в диспетчере задач смотрел сколько что по ресурсам жрет - нагрузка на проц не больше 15% и память не более 20% - общая для всей системы с программами

попробовал даже без TWS, все равно, после 3-х нештаток 75, симулятор завис и вылетел с ошибкой

и ведь происходит это только с ЧС8 ! на других локомотивах вылетов симулятора не замечал

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~~sflit~~ · 11 лютого, 2022

По логу, замечаний нет, памяти предостаточно. Только концовки нет, Вы отправляетесь после полной погрузки?

Сколько у вас планок оперативной памяти? На одинаковой ли они частоте работают?

irasrom · 11 лютого, 2022

Концовки нет потому что был вылет, если выхожу из симулятора штатно - концовка есть

Если сценарий позволяет, дожидаюсь конца загрузки.

у меня было подозрение что процесс загрузки сценария и маршрута влияет на вылет

когда тестировал на маршруте Таганрог - Батайск, без сценария, специально ждал окончания загрузки и пропадания текста загрузки с экрана, и только после этого начинал движение. не помогло, ЧС8 у меня как будто проклят на вылет после защиты АЗВ и 850.

Оперативки у меня 2 по 8 гигабайт ДДР4, на частоте 2,4ГГц, совершенно одинаковые, специально парой брал

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Victor Sep · 11 лютого, 2022

Странно все это. Я на ноуте 2010 года как то решил потренироваться устранять неисправности на ЧС8, с помощью ctrl+insert включал случайною поломку, потом ее устранял, и с помощью delete восстанавливал обратно. Я так раз 50 сделал по кругу, поломал практически все что можно но никаких вылетов не было. Да и на ходу никаких проблем с ЧС8 не наблюдал. Учитывая конфигурацию ноутбука симулятор на версии 54.006 и cедьмой виндой ведет себя идеально.

Snayper · 11 лютого, 2022

ЧС8 у меня как будто проклят на вылет после защиты АЗВ и 850

А перекраски разные или одну и ту же берете? Такое впечатление что у Вас именно проблема в локомотиве, соответственно проверьте все ли файлы на месте

irasrom · 11 лютого, 2022

Виктор, так у меня вылеты не после любой неисправности, а только после срабатывания защиты защиты АЗВ и 850.

я ее провоцировал проездом с набранной тягой через нейтральную вставку, или нештаткой 75.

может мне попробовать скачать54.006 вместо текущей 55.008?

Макс, перекраски ЧС8 не влияют, перебрал все что у меня стоят 020, 038, 044, 045, 049

вот симулятор в логе писал что не может загрузить в модели файл propusk.dmd его нет ни в одной перекраске, хотя грузить его пытается...

Змінено 11 лютого, 2022 користувачем irasrom

Serega1 · 11 лютого, 2022

Ну в этом файле и проблема значит, стимулятор переустановите и все, скачайте архивом либо облегченную версию.

У меня например из за этого файла, только на вл11 пропадала статика с маршрутов.

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